[00:00:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Hello everyone. Before we get started with this episode, I just wanted to fill you in on a few things. First of all, this episode is with Hannah Siglin and we recorded this a few months back and it was so much fun and the live performance is fantastic. The only problem is the microphone that was used for the live performance kind of garbled the guitar and Hannah's guitar playing is wonderful.

So I wanted to make sure that was still highlighted really well. And so I'm including the mix that she sent of the song. The song's actually not released yet called Persimmon. So that's gonna be played instead of the live performance. Um, and she actually plays the guitar later on when she's talking about the song, which I think is really great.

but I'm just putting the mix there. For this episode, so make sure to listen for it in the middle of the track instead of at the very end. Alright, the second thing is I've been releasing these episodes weekly, and this is episode 18, I believe, which is amazing. but for right now, I'm gonna need to cut back for a time to deal with some personal matters and, uh, still have the time I need to dedicate to my music.

So I'm gonna be releasing biweekly at least for the next few months. Again, I love doing the weekly schedule, so I hope I can get back on that train, but for now, I need to cut back for a little bit. So that said, please enjoy this episode and hope you have a great week.

Welcome to the Song Saloon. I'm singer songwriter Jordan Smith Reynolds. Each episode I meet with an artist and we break down one of their songs. Today I have the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Hannah Siglin, a singer, songwriter, and guitarist from Spokane, Washington. Raised on folk music and studied in classical guitar, her songs combine rich arrangements with the simplicity of songs that hit close to home. I was introduced to Hannah's music over this past year, and it's magical. I'm so excited for you to hear her music. Ladies and gentlemen, Hannah Siglin.

[00:01:50] Hannah Siglin: Thank you for having me. It's an honor.

[00:01:52] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Thank you so much for being here. Let's start with just a, quick introduction, before performing the song. So yeah, tell us a little bit about the piece and then we'd love to hear it.

[00:02:02] Hannah Siglin: Yeah. I think this piece really came out of the very predictable early twenties conundrum of, I still very much feel like a child. , but yet I am now an adult and I was trying to capture that in talking about the passage of time and the metaphor of persimmon, like the reason it's called persimmon.

It's kind of like a joke actually. I used to live in Southern California for a little bit and get persimmon at the grocery store, and they would always be like, really, really hard. For a long time and then one day they would just be like, rotten. And I was like, when is this gonna ripen in like a predictable way?

And that's kind of how I, feel like time can be experienced in my life as well. where it seems like nothing is happening. And then I look back and a year has gone by. So I was kind of feeding that in into the idea of persimmon and feeling that really strongly having left LA come back home to my hometown of Spokane and just kind of recalibrating like what I'm gonna do with myself and yeah.

And how I'm experiencing my life differently than when I was a small child.

[00:03:18] Jordan Smith Reynolds: So you were in LA for how long? For college or for school?

[00:03:23] Hannah Siglin: That was after college? Yeah, I moved in February of 2019.

Or I guess it was February of 2020. And stayed for about a year, just kind of during C O V I D. had a breakup there, decided I should just like go home Covid really changed the music industry. And I, I didn't know why I was spending a bunch of money to be in LA for no good reason musically

So I was 

like, you know what? I'm gonna go home. Regroup, and then make another decision based on that. And now I've stayed in Spokane for a couple years now. It's been really good to me

[00:03:57] Jordan Smith Reynolds: mm-hmm. So we were neighbor. For 2020. Cuz I'm 

out here in la, 

north Long Beach area. That's so funny. I didn't know you were here. 

[00:04:04] Hannah Siglin: I was there very briefly.

[00:04:06] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Very cool. Did you ever do anything with L A S C, the songwriters Collective out here?

[00:04:10] Hannah Siglin: I really feel like I didn't get a chance to get to know LA properly. I was 

kind of just locked in. Feeling emo

[00:04:18] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:04:19] Hannah Siglin: I definitely, I didn't get a chance to really see what LA offers musically, and that's kind of a bummer, but who knows? Maybe I'll come back.

[00:04:28] Jordan Smith Reynolds: It was such a weird time. Cuz I, I came to LA in late 2019, so 

right before Pandemic started as well. released my first EP under 

my artist 

project at the time. Like almost to the day when everything shut down.

[00:04:44] Hannah Siglin: March 

13th. 

[00:04:46] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Maybe it was late February, but it was very, very 

close 

[00:04:49] Hannah Siglin: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:04:50] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, so I can totally relate to the whole la why are we here? And I actually escaped too. I went to North Idaho cuz I have two daughters at home. And so we went to North Idaho 

and. hunkered down there for like four months and then came back because

[00:05:04] Hannah Siglin: Where In North Idaho? 

[00:05:05] Jordan Smith Reynolds: It just made more sense with kids in a Priest River. Near Sandpoint?

[00:05:11] Hannah Siglin: Oh, absolutely. I know that area. It's very close to Spokane.

Yeah. So you were in the northwest, so you know, it's gorgeous up here.

[00:05:19] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yep. And it doesn't feel right to be in LA when you could be experiencing nature in Spokane. So I, I totally get that

[00:05:25] Hannah Siglin: Mm-hmm. , it's been restorative for sure. I definitely need to stretch my legs in some green trees 

[00:05:31] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Well, I think it fits your music extremely well. Could we hear persimmon?

[00:05:35] Hannah Siglin: Let's do it. I'm gonna have to 

tune real quick.

[00:05:39] Jordan Smith Reynolds: No worries.

[00:05:41] Hannah Siglin: I hope you're enjoying some persimmons.

This is 

season, right? I guess it's a little after season, but I do miss the the fresh produce of LA and the farmer's markets and the lemon trees. All right. Here's my song.

[00:06:08] Music Performance: Time is shorter now than when we were young.

Passes through my fingers. like holding on to rays of sun. Calls me out to play but then the work is never done ripens like a persimmon and the juices run.

Where can I go to remember being a child?

Step into the forest, become perfectly unified. Let the silence speak for words that I cannot describe and give myself permission. 

But you make time move slow. Yeah you how can you know me as I was so long ago?

I've been disappointed so many times before knocked with anticipation just to find another locked door and tried to move on from love I know I can't restore and wait for the person I am missing. 

But you make time move slow. Yeah you how can you know me as I was so long ago? 

You make time move slow.

You how can you know 

me as I was so long ago?

[00:10:28] Jordan Smith Reynolds:

Awesome. Okay. Let's, let's get into it a bit. What inspired the song? Uh, I'd also love to hear who your influences are. What artists are you, are you processing as you're making this, this art of yours?

[00:10:41] Hannah Siglin: Mm, I definitely, uh, really, really fell in love with Noah Gunderson's music in early high school. he's a Washingtonian as well. I've actually met him and like had conversations with him. He's kind of like not that far away, , so I'm a huge fan of his music and it definitely, he came from a church background and I do as well.

and a lot of my music deals with themes, my own personal struggle with, like redefining my life outside of a faith context. but still having that very much inform who I am and how I see the world. So he's definitely a huge influence for me. I grew up playing very classic folk music.

Peter, Paul, and Mary. You. . know Simon and Garfunkel, all of that stuff. Even the Beatles, songs were like very much at the core of me learning how to play music. So I, I feel very much drawn to songs still. who would I say I love Nick Drake as well. Like I very much admire the, that era of British and American folk music in the seventies.

Joni Mitchell, Nick Drake. John Martin, all of those guys are very much on my rotation, I would say that those people are in the back of my mind when I play music. 

[00:12:01] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. very apparent when you started listing names like, yep. that that really fits . And how active is that part of your brain during the songwriting 

process? Are you thinking, oh, 

I would really love to use some Joni sounds, or does it kind of just flow out 

while you're working on the 

[00:12:16] Hannah Siglin: Definitely not ever. Maybe in hindsight I'll look back at something and be like, I think I stole that from so-and-so. I definitely don't think I'm thinking about any particular sound or artist I had this experience yesterday actually, where I was listening to a bunch of bluegrass music and just old time, like banjo music. I got into the mood for that and felt really inspired to sit down and write a little bit. So that sort of genre was like the impetus for a little bit of creativity and it sorta sounded like that, you know, it was very, very folky and 1, 4, 5, you know, But in the moment it's, if I very much write based on moments of inspiration, I do not have like a songwriting practice I feel more like an artist who needs to emote through my music rather than like a songwriter who has a songwriting craft. So usually when I'm writing it's like a therapeutic outpouring that's emotional and like inspired and of the moment.

[00:13:18] Jordan Smith Reynolds: So what does that look like for your week to 

week? how often do you find yourself 

writing? 

[00:13:24] Hannah Siglin: Rarely ? Probably, yeah, kind of rarely, honestly. Um, once or twice a month. Usually it's like oh my word, I can't, I need to grab my guitar cuz I feel the inspiration rising and I need to like, get something out. Uh, had that yesterday, but I'm sort of in a stage of my life where I'm trying to make a living, performing.

So I 

spend a lot of time playing gigs that may or may not be listening rooms, you know, a lot of background music, a lot of just getting paid. , Like I play a lot of wineries where they just wanna hire me to like serenade their wine drinking customers. So, I spend a lot of time playing music, but I'm often not in like a creative generating state of mind. So I often don't find myself writing these days, but it kind of comes, ebbs and flows and I, I hope another wave comes for me.

soon 

[00:14:18] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. I think it's so different from songwriter to songwriter, It's so funny how adamant people are in their positions too. Cuz I've 

heard artists are just like, you gotta be writing every day. You 

gotta sit down, you've gotta 

spend this time to write whether you like it or not.

it's gotta happen. And then others that are like, no, you don't wanna do that to your soul. You gotta just write what it feels good. So I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to that really. It's figuring out what's good for the individual. But yeah, that's 

actually something I was gonna bring up too, is your experience and performance, because I follow you on Instagram and I'll see your list of places you're playing and it's like every day for the month you are booked and you're playing. That's a lot of work.

[00:15:00] Hannah Siglin: it is. I'm really, I love doing it and it often does not feel like work. so in the summer, generally, like we're trying to play every weekend. Midweek gigs expanding outside of just the, in the northwest, like to Central Oregon and other places like that. But yeah, I've, I've been performing for a really long time.

My first solo gig, like me with my guitar playing was when I was 10 at like a little street fair here in Spokane. So it's definitely a. part of my life experience. It feels very natural for me, and it's like such a great way to get paid really well and enjoy doing it. So I am, I'm putting a lot of effort behind, like among my other interests so that my other interests can be more recreational and, about making a living. 

[00:15:53] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's 

awesome. So we met through Cameron Brownell. I think the reason he connected us was 

because he was working as a tour booking manager 

for me, 

I was doing 

a little mini tour and so he probably reached out on Instagram and was like, who's around performing in Spokane and found you that way.

When we were doing this tour and figuring it out, we, we did some kind of brewery situations along with more of the, I guess, traditional venues across like Seattle and things like that. And what I noticed. At least for our tour was the venues, would be very lucky to make any money, if not lose money on those. But the breweries and wineries, they pay pretty well. So touring in the future, I would probably keep that in mind. So, you know, having a more in the city venue that fits the music well. But then also booking these brewery winery shows around it to support financially. 

And it's just really fun. You, you meet a lot of people 

[00:16:50] Hannah Siglin: It is, it is, it's absolutely a way to connect. I actually just booked a wedding cuz somebody saw me at a brewery in Bend, Oregon and was like, we like your music. So it's definitely a, people aren't necessarily gonna go to my show if it's ticketed, but they might go get a beer at their favorite spot and I'm playing.

It's very, it's a great way to connect, I will say in Spokane specifically, we have like a really special, really friendly, supportive music scene here, where everyone comes to each other's shows and.

there's a sense of, yeah, community support here for the music, the little music scene that we've got going here. So that's part of what has kept me in Spokane is feeling that like musical love and brotherhood. Um, and I have a few favorite spots that I go see my friends play at very often here, So yeah, I think that I felt like a really strong desire to go see live music, once it was possible.

again I feel like that has carried through from my perspective, it's just kind of, we gotta change the way we make money cuz you can't really make money streaming. but it's a really helpful tool for introducing people to your music. And then maybe when you come through their town, town they'll come see you. I'm not really sure, I've never, um, really planned a tour. I'd love to talk to you more about how you did that and how it worked out for you. It can be very challenging, I think, to, to do that. So 

[00:18:19] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That part was tricky. Getting people to come to shows and where 

breweries and things like that make a lot of sense cuz they come with people, people are kind of with the package. and a lot of the venues in LA I've seen are very much like 

people come to see the performer, not because they've got their favorite place to spend $30 on parking and go drink so it's, it's very artist oriented as opposed to just knowing that the venue's reputation is really nice. There's a few places like the Troubador, I imagine people are just, oh, I'll check it out cuz it's at the Troubador hotel cafe 

is one of those 

[00:18:50] Hannah Siglin: Mm-hmm. , I do appreciate that about la I'm coming back. We should set up some, some music. I'm like to visit. sea kayaking thing on Catalina Island.

So very, yeah, very much like. . The other side of my, my love for life is spending time in nature, being with the plants, looking at fish. You know, so that's why I'm coming

[00:19:15] Jordan Smith Reynolds: your first time at Catalina,

[00:19:16] Hannah Siglin: it will be, I have looked at Catalina through .the smog, you know, from the beach squinted and tried to see it, but it will be my, first time on the.

island 

[00:19:25] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. It's 

beautiful. That'll be a lot of

[00:19:27] Hannah Siglin: Yeah. 

[00:19:29] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Very good. Okay, so what are some of your goals with music? 

[00:19:32] Hannah Siglin: I don't know. That's a 

very hard question for me to answer. I've never had like a, a really strong urge to like, push For, an artist career.

I've never really felt that. It's sort of always been something that like I do cuz it's fun and it works. and it's something I'm, I think I'm good at doing. I have no idea. I I'm trying to put more music out, keep writing book gigs, like let it, it sort of has a career veneer over it right now where like, I'm just trying to make money doing this.

 whether I can keep up the like brewery, winery, hustle for another five years. I don't know. someday I would love to have goats and a huge garden and like a lot of time to like play guitar in the evening on my wraparound porch and like listen to the cricket sing. That's kind of what I envision . I don't know if anyone's gonna follow my Instagram from this podcast but um, 

[00:20:37] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes 

[00:20:38] Hannah Siglin: episode 

[00:20:38] Jordan Smith Reynolds: please. Where can we find 

you

[00:20:40] Hannah Siglin: you can find me Hannah Siglin music, but most of my content is gonna be about farming, which is something I'm really enjoying learning more about and have.

a passion for. Market style, small farm, organic, diversified animals, plants together. Very much an interest of mine along with, native medicinal plants of North America. It's called Western herbalism. I think there's a strong, uh, 

push culturally for better and more holistic options for our health and connectedness to nature in each other and our personal responsibility as humans.

So my vision for my future in five years, being surrounded by plants and animals, playing music in a really sustainable way. and having like cultivating like the friendships, family relationships, community relationships in my life that like float my boat. I don't think you'll see me on the American Idol stage or anything like that, but I hope to have like a very integrated content life where I'm doing all the things that that make me happy and then I can give the best music out from that.

Yeah.

[00:21:54] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm-hmm. 

I think that knowing what you want 

and pursuing that lifestyle, people will just naturally gravitate 

towards that, I'm excited for people to check out how you're doing all that on your Instagram because 

that's another cool thing about the time we're in right now is we can be connected in 

really cool and intimate ways 

[00:22:10] Hannah Siglin: Totally. And 

there's so, people are so unique in what they're interested in and I think a, a benefit of social media is you can really find people who are doing what you like, like the singing garden fairies, you know, like they're out there. Um, so it's really cool to be able to.

Maybe envision a life you want with other people who are like-minded all over the world.

[00:22:36] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm-hmm. . so I'm gonna zoom back into the song real quick. I had a few little pieces I would love to just pick your brain about I'd love to talk to you about 

some of the the vocal choices you've made and things just cuz it, it gets me excited.

Here's one that I noticed. I wanted to talk about how you have a double chorus at the very 

end and how you segue into that. I think it's a really effective way you change the melody of the last line.

So here's that part.

[00:23:02] song clip: plays clip 

[00:23:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: so that's the first one.

[00:23:06] song clip: plays clip 

[00:23:12] Jordan Smith Reynolds: I love how you set that up because you just want the second chorus immediately with how you vary the line just slightly. what was that process like for you? What were you thinking about?

[00:23:23] Hannah Siglin: what was I thinking about? Um, One thing that I think

is kind of unique about that chorus is adding that seventh chord. Um, To make like a very cadential sound, like the cadence effect of, of that. So I guess, yeah, I 

love, Um,

I love a double chorus. I end up doing that a lot. and the melody choice, I definitely didn't have a reason besides, that's how it just like must be done, you know? Yes. That was so long ago. Yeah, I love that you really enjoyed that part. Um, I don't have a satisfactory answer to why I did that, except that if the chorus is good once at the end, you gotta do it twice. Right. And a nice little,

Yeah. 

One thing I would love to talk about with the chorus is this note right here rings out with the resolution, so they ring together, which gives it kind of a, Um, a little bit of a dissonance sound

and that also, this note is not. We're gonna get, we're gonna get a little theoretical here, but, um, it's outside of the key. It's an accidental, 

so it has like 

a, it, notifies the ear that there's like something different about that. And that was very intentional in my writing. Cause we're all. Talking about, you know, this and that.

I'm kind of sad about how time is passing differently. Very predictable. But then you, that's something different. You make me experience time slowly. And then I really wanted that to slow down to, um, to highlight you, make time move slow and it feels like this

plays guitar 

[00:25:28] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm 

[00:25:29] Hannah Siglin: In contrast to the pace of the fingerpicking beforehand. So I was trying to, um, one of my teachers in college, pat Patterson, shout out love you Pat, um, he calls that prosody

[00:25:43] Jordan Smith Reynolds: So you're a Berkeley grad. 

[00:25:44] Hannah Siglin: 'I'm, I'm a Berklee grad. Yes, uh, not uc, Berkeley, for all the, for all the folks listening for all our fans.

[00:25:52] Jordan Smith Reynolds: We may have been, we may have been 

neighbors there too. I went to New England Conservatory

[00:25:57] Hannah Siglin: N e c. What years were you there? 

[00:26:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: I was there 2016 to 2018.

[00:26:03] Hannah Siglin: were absolutely there. I was 2015. 2019. I 

was there 

at the same time as you. That's hilarious. Did you know Liv Green by chance at N EC 

[00:26:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:26:12] Hannah Siglin: Liv 

is a dear friend of. 

[00:26:14] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Amazing. 

[00:26:15] Hannah Siglin: she worked at Club Pass scene with me. Wow. Connections beyond

like your cousin people I actually spent a lot of time with, NEC's a beautiful, beautiful school. That's so fun. Neighbors. 

[00:26:28] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's so funny. Yeah. We've been like bouncing around the US 

around the same timeframe.

[00:26:33] Hannah Siglin: Totally. All, yeah. Coast to coast. but what I was saying about. what pat calls that prosody I think it's a combination of like melody and prose, where the words are highlighted by the music, and the music highlights the words. So I definitely, that's, that was a huge takeaway for me as a songwriter, being intentional with craft.

You know, I can be all emoting in my songs and let that inspire stuff, but I also love. to Be intentional with moments like that. So in Persimmon in the course specifically, I was trying to, to highlight the the words of the, chorus through what I was doing with my guitar work. 

[00:27:09] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, like you mentioned with that, extra note in there outside 

of the key, that really just brings you out of 

that kind of cyclical pattern of talking about time and the things you're disappointed in. I, I love how it 

brings you out of that. Along with the rhythm 

component. 

That's the other thing I was gonna bring up was that make time move slow. And I love how you stretch that out so much. Melodically and with the guitar.

[00:27:29] Hannah Siglin: totally. And it's interesting, when I was writing this song, it was not, you is not like a love interest at all. I was actually talking about like spending time quietly in nature, which I got to do a lot of when I first moved back to Spokane. That helped me like experience time and my life Um, and experiencing that as making time move slow and feeling like like I can truly be myself when I'm in that state of mind. Like, how 

can you know me as I was so long ago? Like, I feel like I get into the child mind state . When I'm alone, quiet in a beautiful place, like just enjoying my life.

[00:28:14] Jordan Smith Reynolds: To me it sounds kind of like a love letter to the life that you're in that's so cool.

[00:28:18] Hannah Siglin: Definitely is, yeah.

[00:28:20] Jordan Smith Reynolds: One other thing I wanted to mention songwriting wise, that first verse you have an a, a a a rhyme scheme, right? With. young son and then you have the persimmon, the juices run, kind of closes that off. And then I thought it was really interesting, the second verse and the third verse, you have the a, a, a again, but then 

it's like B, but kind of a, cuz there's like a little shout out to persimmon with permission and person cuz there's a really close to persimmon and I thought that was 

super interesting. Can you, can you talk a little bit about that?

[00:28:55] Hannah Siglin: Yeah, I feel a little obnoxious in rhyming persimmon with permission with person. I'm missing. But I had fun with that the first verse, a, a, a and then, and the juices run. Completing that, a rhyme, that was because I go back into the intro and then immediately go to verse two and don't go to the chorus.

Whereas in after verse two and verse three, it goes into the chorus. And so I don't feel the need to complete the rhyme.

[00:29:25] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Cool.

[00:29:26] Hannah Siglin: If that makes sense too.

[00:29:27] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, I think it sets it up well because you're kind of highlighting stuff where you're missing things, 

right? You literally used the word missing in that point, and then the chorus is 

your solution. It's not an extra rhyme to make it a pretty package. It's the chorus that really is the closer.

[00:29:42] Hannah Siglin: Totally. It's a pivot like sonically with that chord, with the weird note. It's a totally different, very much contrasting versus chorus

[00:29:50] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's awesome. Well, thank you again so much for, joining today. Do you have any thoughts for songwriters out there that might be trying to get 

into it or, 

or maybe your process with inspiration? 

[00:30:02] Hannah Siglin: Definitely. I would love to highlight what you said earlier where you can get, there's the Pat Pattinson read the book. practice these things. Cultivate a creative mind, like journal, like just have a generating flow in your life to inspire songs. I think that's extremely valuable, having a practice, being diligent with that.

 I also think you can be stimulating your creativity without it necessarily being like a 30 minute songwriting session every day. It could be. reading books that you really enjoy. I often am inspired by listening to music. I like, like I'll be listening to something and then just get the terrible urge to like sit down with my guitar and write something.

So another teacher at Berkeley who I'd love to shout out is Mark Simos, he's awesome and he talks about collecting song seeds. I think that would be excellent advice for anyone who wants to like cultivate a practice of songwriting have your creative mind turned on when you see something maybe you wanna write it down in a notebook. Be like, so cool. When I was in my bedroom this morning, Muna has a song about this. There's like a certain light that comes at this time. If you notice that and that's inspiring to you, write that down. Maybe that could be like the start of a song. The seeds are everywhere.

It's just looking around and being open to creative inspiration. Listen to good music, read good books. If you thrive on like having a practice, cultivate that. But it doesn't have to look like writing songs. 

[00:31:30] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Right. And to that point, I think we can give ourselves a little more freedom to just collect the seeds and figure out what we want to do when we can.

[00:31:38] Hannah Siglin: Absolutely. And I use my voice memo app all the time. Usually melodies come first for me and not lyrics like a 

melody or some sort of guitar thing. Just to try to capture that, move on, and then you can come back and be like, Ooh, I love that, or, Hmm, not feeling that.

[00:31:55] Jordan Smith Reynolds: . My voice memos need some serious restructuring. It's, it's pretty messy.

[00:32:00] Hannah Siglin: Totally. That's always the saddest thing when I like sync my phone into a puddle or something. I'm like, no. My voice memos 

[00:32:06] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. .I know right now I'm using a, an older iPhone, but it's like just so inundated with voice memos that if I press the button, it takes a year to start up and actually start recording anything. 

[00:32:18] Hannah Siglin: Totally. Mine's like bugging all the time. It doesn't work very well, but it's a great tool.

[00:32:23] Jordan Smith Reynolds: it is a good tool. Thank you again so much, Hannah. This was wonderful. Thank you for being here.

[00:32:28] Hannah Siglin: Thank you, Jordan. I can't wait to listen to all the other episodes on your show.

[00:32:32] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Thank you. Everyone make sure to check out Hannah Siglin, you mentioned it's at Hannah Siglin Music on Instagram and 

other platforms.

[00:32:40] Hannah Siglin: Yep. Looking forward to it! 

it 

[00:32:41] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Thank you so much and see you next time at the Saloon.

[00:32:45] Hannah Siglin: Bye everyone.