[00:00:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: welcome to the Song Saloon. I'm singer songwriter Jordan Smith Reynolds, and each episode we sit down with a songwriter and we talk about one of their songs. 

Today we're meeting with Guy Richey Gibbons, a fellow three named artist, and also the second one to be on the podcast. From pop to soft rock, fragrances of funk, and heart infused soul, Guy is a vibe. A singer and songwriter, multi instrumentalist and producer, Guy makes music that anyone can enjoy.

His listeners have also come to love Guy's self produced music videos. If music be the food of love, then Guy is the chef de cuisine, and we love what he's cooking. Welcome, Guy.

[00:00:39] Guy Richey Gibbons: Dude, thanks so much for having me on.

[00:00:41] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, thanks for being here.

[00:00:42] Guy Richey Gibbons: three name artist.

I've thought so many times about just changing that thing to Guy Gibbons.

[00:00:49] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Oh, yeah?

[00:00:50] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah, oh yeah.

[00:00:51] Jordan Smith Reynolds: why did you start with the three?

[00:00:53] Guy Richey Gibbons: I don't know. I would, I, uh, guess I like my middle name. It's a tribute to my, my uncle who was a phenomenal musician. Our uncle, I

[00:01:02] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Our uncle, yes. Yeah, Guy Ritchie Gibbons is my cousin.

[00:01:05] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah. Here we go. but, I had a funny conversation with somebody one time, uh, as I was kind of diving into the music thing again.

I'm working on my first record, and I said, like, what, what do you think, what do you think, like, the name, should it be Guy Gibbons or Guy Ritchie Gibbons or Guy Ritchie? The Guy Ritchie thing, I was like, well, there's already a famous movie director. You know, Madonna's ex husband,

[00:01:27] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm hmm.

[00:01:28] Guy Richey Gibbons: So I was like, probably not Guy Ritchie.

But, the friend I was talking to, he said, Guy Gibbons sounds like he obeys all the rules. Guy Ritchie Gibbons sounds like you know, like he's a little more throw care to the wind or something.

And I was like, well, neither of those fit me perfectly, but the Guy Ritchie Gibbons is what I'd rather people like, I'd rather people. Look at my brand or whatever and say oh, that's a guy who knows, you know Like how to have a good time and I don't know so that's that's not the reason I chose to do Guy Ritchie Gibbons But it was a funny conversation to have with this friend.

[00:02:06] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. So you're the second one. We had Brittany Ann Tranbaugh near the beginning of the podcast. So, and I recently switched my name to Jordan Smith Reynolds. So it's, it always feels good to have another triple name on here.

[00:02:20] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah, dude. I've done a ton of thinking about like Does the number of syllables you have in your in your stage name or your artist name or your name? Does that have any impact on? basically like your popularity or like, you know, becoming famous or making it in the industry or anything.

Cause, like, name your favorite artist whose, like, their name is their, is their name as an artist.

[00:02:46] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:02:46] Guy Richey Gibbons: Bon Iver. How many syllables is that? That's three.

[00:02:49] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Elliott Smith or Sufjan Stevens.

[00:02:52] Guy Richey Gibbons: yeah, Sufjan Stevens. Four. So there's a lot of fours. I was thinking like John Mayer.

There's a lot of threes. Ben Rector, Cody Frye, Cory Wong.

[00:03:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Bridgers. Yeah.

[00:03:06] Guy Richey Gibbons: so many threes and fours. Guy Ritchie, Gibbons. But once you get into that five range. Like the three namers, you know, it's like, oh, I don't know. Is that vibing as well? But who cares?

[00:03:19] Jordan Smith Reynolds: who cares. And you know what? Oh, there's like father John Misty. That's, that's 

[00:03:23] Guy Richey Gibbons: Father John Misty. So five, yeah.

[00:03:27] Jordan Smith Reynolds: that one's a little bigger, but it does have like the kind of, uh, priest thing attached to it. So that, that adds some 

interest. Yeah.

[00:03:35] Guy Richey Gibbons: That's cool. I'm sure there is like, I'm sure if you look, if you studied at a time, I'm sure there would be some kind of correlation. Probably, I don't know if it'd be causational, but I'm sure there would be something.

[00:03:47] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Right. That's my question. Cause it might be just cause it's rarer, but if it's rare, like we'd have to know all the ones that like, didn't get into the public eye, you know, that many syllables. If anything, I feel like it's, it's confident because it's like, you got to do one more syllable's worth of typing to figure out who this person is.

[00:04:08] Guy Richey Gibbons: Totally. You got to have a real fans. If you have three namers, you gotta have a legit fan. We're not out here with our three syllable names like, just getting easy followers and listeners. We're out here doing the work.

[00:04:21] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm hmm.

[00:04:23] Guy Richey Gibbons: That's hilarious,

dude. 

[00:04:24] Jordan Smith Reynolds: it. So guy, what song are we looking at today?

[00:04:28] Guy Richey Gibbons: Uh, new tune that has not come out yet. So this is kind of an exclusive, I guess, uh, release, pre release, 

Saloon. Grateful to be doing that. This song's called Love Somebody. And... Yeah, this is a fun song. I don't know if it's different than any other, my other tunes, but the way it was written is absolutely different than any song. I've written and produced up to this point. Um, do you mind if I share the story of how it came to 

[00:05:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Please. 

[00:05:00] Guy Richey Gibbons: So, uh, how the song came to be is totally different than any song I've written up to this point. It was, it was kind of crazy how it happened. So I was in here and I was working on a, kind of a cover of a, of a different tune that I was like, maybe it was going to be like a reel or maybe I was going to finish it.

I wasn't sure, but it was, it was something that I was kind of vibing on and enjoying. And so I was going to work on it. And. I sat down to work on it, and I had this, like, absolute, like, overwhelming feeling of, like, do not work on this song right now. And it was, like, so, you know, just, like, no question that I had this, like, wow, like, don't work on it.

But I, but I typically don't, like, function with music that way where I'm like, what should I do? And then I wait for the answer to come. I'm just kind of like, you know, here's what I want to work on and go forward. but I decided to, to listen to that feeling. And, and, uh, so I put it down and I was like, okay, God, what do you want me to work on?

And, in 15 minutes, the song was written. Like, it took 15 minutes for the chord structure and the lyrics, everything. My wife actually came in as I had just decided not to work on the cover tune. And she just like sat down and I wrote the song in 15 minutes with her just like sitting on it. I used to have like a little sofa in here and she was sitting on it.

And all the lyrics, everything, it just like... Immediate just conduit just opened up and and it just came out I'm not claiming. It's it's like a earth shaking amazing song but When you're writing music Sometimes songs come quickly, but I've never had a song come in 15 minutes Like wow, like it was as if like the song had already been written And I was just, like, walking to the mailbox to, like, go get the package and open it up and it was done.

Like, that's how fast it felt. It was just very, very strange, very... I thought it was a lot of fun to write a song that I'm proud of or that I'm happy with that quickly, so... Yeah, it was a wild experience and, Anyway, so I recorded, like, a demo of it on, like, a Wurlitzer sound and... I don't remember...

Timeline wise, how this, how this all kind of panned out, but I, I was talking to a producer's manager. The manager lived in LA and the producer lives in Minneapolis. Um, his name is John Fields and he like, he produced like. the Jonas Brothers first three records and some other Disney stars. And then more recently, he's been producing like Ben Rector's records and working with Cory Wong and different artists that are really cool.

anyway, I'd been talking with the manager and the manager was really pumped on my stuff and, and, uh, send it over to this producer and they ended up, we ended up chatting and, and he was like, yeah, do you want to come out? and work on your next record and there were some songs I wanted to anyway I sent this demo over to him and this was one of the tunes that was it I think it may have been the It was either the second or third song I went out for like three and a half days and we ended up recording four songs while I was out there together and and this this was we we tracked this song while we were out there and it was one that it's really simple the production stuff, But it was so fun, There's a bass guitar at the beginning half of the song, and then the second half of the song is a synth bass, and they never cross paths.

Like, they don't, you know, sometimes I'll put like a bass guitar and a verse, and then a synth bass or vice versa, and like, mix them together. But this one was like, no, it needs a bass at the beginning, and a synth bass at the end, and they're completely like, separate, and they never really harken back to each other.

So, it was a lot of fun to just kind of like, let the song dictate what felt good, and it turned out really fun, so. Yeah, I'm pumped.

[00:08:52] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's awesome. Well, I definitely want to dive into that that process of like receiving a song as opposed to like kind of crafting one. Um, but let's go ahead and start with the performance and then we'll dive into that.

[00:09:04] Guy Richey Gibbons: Oh,

[00:09:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:09:05] Guy Richey Gibbons: okay. Alrighty. Okay, this is Love Somebody.

That's Love Somebody. Thanks, 

[00:11:20] Jordan Smith Reynolds: so much.

That's 

[00:11:22] Guy Richey Gibbons: thank you.

[00:11:23] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, I love that, that vibe. And obviously the message is, is really nice too. it kind of gives me like a bit of Randy Newman vibes. yeah. Is Randy Newman an, an, an, an influence for you in your

[00:11:36] Guy Richey Gibbons: He is. He's, it's funny. I, uh, I've only purchased one of his records when I was maybe in my early 20s and, and really loved that record. He's such an amazing songwriter, but I've heard him so, we've all heard Randy's stuff like over and over again.

[00:11:53] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, like hear his voice on top of that song you just sang.

[00:11:58] Guy Richey Gibbons: If you're feeling kind of blue. Yeah, here's Randy Newman. He's just so good. That's kind of you. That's a huge compliment.

Yeah. 

[00:12:05] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. It feels so good over like jaunty piano kind of stuff, you know, that, that vocal, really cool. So I want to dive into what you had mentioned with this, like the song feeling given and like to, to drop what you were doing to respond to that. And I think

that's, that's awesome that you're in tune to be able to, to make that decision.

cause I think we can get so in our heads, you know, if like, Oh no, I got it. Get this next project done. I got to do this next thing that you can miss out on some really important stuff if you're not, if you're not leaving yourself open for that.

[00:12:37] Guy Richey Gibbons: I don't think I make enough time for myself to sit and listen for those types of things. I think there's probably a lot more of those experiences I could be having or we could be having as songwriters. But I don't think I take time. And I think it's maybe a little bit like being mindful, you know, like mindfulness with music maybe or something where, um, I had another interesting experience with a song that's already out called Processing.

we were actually in your neck of the woods in California on a family vacation earlier this year. And when we got home, I found out some, some news that just totally blindsided me and I was not expecting kind of some personal news. And, Yeah, it was a Thursday night and really kind of rocked me for, for a minute.

And the next morning I got up and I was like, okay, time to work on, you know, songwriting or whatever project I had open on logic or whatever I I'd started on. And it was just absolutely, there was nothing else but that song I could write that day and produce it. Like. And I, I wrote and produced the song that day.

and that one was interesting because it wasn't just writing the song, but like, I just produced it as it kind of is on the, on the recording. And I don't have a ton of those, but those two experiences, I maybe have like one or two other experiences where like a song came really quick like that. but both of those times I felt like there was an element of mindfulness and like listening going on, listening to like what's going on inside of me.

love somebody, it was more like I was kind of hearing these, you know, like some inspiration and, and some guidance. And processing was more like I had some inner feelings that I needed to listen to. so one was external, one was internal, but both involved like being quiet and just listening to like, hey, what's going on?

inside and, and, uh, or what, what am I feeling and hearing? And, and then the emotions or whatever, like they just came quickly, you know, but I would love to have more experiences like this. I feel like they're really meaningful songs too. Maybe I don't, you know, I hope people that listen like them, but they're very special to me.

And, uh, I love having special relationships with the songs I'm writing.

[00:14:52] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah. Yeah, the therapeutic benefit for songwriting alone, I mean, like, it's, it's lovely when other people listen to it and things like that, but. Man, what you're able to work out as a songwriter, I find is just, it's so beneficial and it's, it's helped my life a lot. I know just in those moments.

And of course it would be nice if like every single song felt like it was just like in your lap. but you put in the work, I'm sure very often when it's, when it's not like that. And I think the fact that you're releasing an album, your second album a year after the album you released, uh, in this moment last year.

is a testament to that, I imagine. So talk about your process for writing. Are you sitting down? Do you have a schedule that you sit down and write? What's, what's a normal songwriting practice like for you?

[00:15:42] Guy Richey Gibbons: I feel like there's phases. And so like some seasons, like after in this moment came out, my, that first record, I was actually like petrified, afraid. I was like having nightmares at night, like thinking that there was no more music inside of me after that record was coming out. And I've like been writing songs for 30 years, you know, or whatever.

Yeah. and so like, I didn't want to even try for like, you know, a little bit. And then, Once the record was out, it felt like, okay, I, like, I need to promote this record, but like, I was like motivated to write music because I didn't want that nightmare to come true and be like, Oh no, I like don't have any more music in me.

And so, which just isn't true, obviously. It's just like, that's just such a, like, fear and, 

[00:16:26] Jordan Smith Reynolds: but everyone's afraid of that, or at least a lot of songwriters. I know I relate to that very 

[00:16:30] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah.

totally. Yeah, so it was kind of like there was this season where it was like I don't I don't want to touch writing for a second or I was afraid to but then it was like, okay Now it's my focus and I feel like that that kind of is how it goes for me where? When my gut says hey, it's time to write songs and I'm not promoting a record heavily or I'm not You know, I'm, I'm not creating music videos at the moment or whatever, or it's time to work on the next record.

Like, I feel like I go into songwriting mode. I'm always recording little ideas or whatever on my memos app, no matter what's going on, no matter what season I'm in. I'm always recording ideas, but I kind of... I kind of switch work mode where it's like, okay, now I'm, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to write.

And that's when I'll start reaching out to friends. you and I have done a co write before and that was like that season. I was working on material for this record that I'm working, that I'm releasing right now. And I was reaching out to a bunch of buddies and doing co writes. And, and so it was like, I think it was, it's maybe a little bit like, uh, You know, there's, there's a, a season to sow and there's a season to reap kind of a thing and it was like that songwriting for me, I needed to start sewing some songs and, and then releasing the record is that harvest kind of thing and then promoting it, you know, so that's kind of the process for me and then production is part of that as well, like, you know, I, I typically like to, uh, I kind of yeah.

A lot of songs, I kind of produce while I'm writing, just because I, I like hearing, I've even heard some producers, and I do this too, a lot of producers mix as they produce, right? They kind of, they try to get that end sound they like and that they're going for, that they want to hear on the, the master.

They do that while they're actually tracking and producing because it just. It just helps, they just feel better about the tune if they can kind of hear it with the compression and kind of that mastering chain as they go and it just, you know, the limiting and the, the, the, whatever characteristics they want.

And I'm a little bit like that too. I like to hear as I'm writing a song, I feel like I'm a stronger writer when I'm kind of in that space where I can hear like, this would be a cool part of the song. And so they all kind of start in that mode.

They start to kind of come together and gel a little bit, not all the time, but sometimes they do.

[00:18:53] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. I found the more I've written, it's less about what's good, what's bad, what's, What makes sense, even, and more what's interesting, like, 

[00:19:03] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah. What feels good? What's feeling good to me right now?

[00:19:06] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah, and if you're a producer, I think leaning into, like, getting the mix to something that excites you, as long as that interest is there, that's what's propelling that creativity, I think.

[00:19:16] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah. I've even had moments where it's like, because of the interest, I'll dive into something even if it doesn't end up on the final track. But it helps me get through the song and, and get to a place where I'm like really happy with it. And then as I keep working on the song later, maybe I'll start cutting things out or changing things.

But in the moment of creating, that producing and kind of writing all at the same time is, is what was providing the, like the creative excitement to, to finish the song. And so it's like, even if it doesn't end up that way on the master, it was still really integral to finishing the song. And so I've had that a number of times and, and again, like you're saying, it, it kind of comes down to what, what was interesting in the moment and whatever that is, you as the artist, you're right.

You know, I guess if it's your song, you're the one who's right about it. So it's fun. Yeah, it's, it's fun to, to work with other people too, where it's completely different. I was just at a Bruno Major concert last week. Do you listen to Bruno Major? Yeah, he's so good. Holy cow. Yeah, it was such a, such a great show.

But I asked him before the show.

Yeah. there you go. I asked him before the show, kind of what you just asked me about songwriting. Like, I told him that I just love his songwriting. And I love his production and the marriage like his stuff is so well like so well done how the songwriting and the production just fits so well together.

He has a real gift that way and he produces with like his best friend. I don't remember his name, but

[00:20:47] Jordan Smith Reynolds: he do a lot of production himself?

[00:20:49] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah, he co produces with, uh, I think he co produces everything with. Oh, what's his name? I've seen, I've seen reels of both of them hanging out, I think in Bruno's studio, but anyway, or in his house where they record.

But he said that for him, it's like three distinct phases. He'll write the song on a, like a piano or a guitar, and he won't touch anything else. It's like, I'm just going to write the song, pad of paper, pen, and my guitar. And then once I, once I finish the song, I'm going to record a demo of just that. me and my guitar.

And then once the demo's done, I'll review the material or whatever, and then I'll, I'll move into production mode. And so he had like a very three distinct phases of how he likes to approach it. And that's probably why he's so good at it. I probably need to, I probably need to like slow down and, and treat them differently, but But it, you know, to each his own and what works for you works for you, but it was really fascinating to hear his approach and he's so good.

[00:21:50] Jordan Smith Reynolds: So good. 

[00:21:52] Guy Richey Gibbons: such a great songwriter and musician.

[00:21:54] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah, I'm kind of old school that way too, I think. I like the, I mean, part of it's that I'm not really a producer. So that, that, that helps me fall on that camp, but I like the pad of paper writing. Um, I know Howard Shore is very similar in his film composition. He's like, He writes out everything, like it's not digital, um, and his scores and everything.

So that's, I kind of relate to that, to that sentiment. But I think, I mean, production is, I've had this conversation with a few songwriters on here, but I think production has become such a integral part even to the songwriting of a lot of songs that there's, um, there's definitely something to be said for like production as a songwriting generative tool.

that can be really, really great too.

[00:22:39] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah. I feel like mainstream pop, like top 40 pop songs of today are good examples of how I feel like. And that's not my stuff. My music is not like a top 40 mainstream pop song by any means. But, if you listen to that kind of music, it's like, how could you even write the song if you weren't in the studio with like a drum machine and like, you know, yeah.

Like your MPC or whatever, and like actually producing as you're going. Cause it's all so sample driven, it's all so beat driven that it was like, how would you even... Like, have you heard John Bellion's production on Tori Kelly's new record at all?

[00:23:15] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Oh, no, I haven't.

[00:23:17] Guy Richey Gibbons: There's a song on there that I would definitely recommend listening to, it's, um, Shelter.

It's like a, it's a cool tune. As far as songwriting goes, well written song, but it's, I mean, I don't even know how to explain it, but the song and the production have to go together somehow, cause like, I, otherwise, it's like, I don't, I don't even know how you'd write, write that kind of a song without having production kind of at your fingertips as you're going, cause it just kind of feels so like they have to be together, you know?

I'm sure you could play the song on an acoustic guitar, but I just don't, 

I just don't hear it that 

way. Yeah. 

Yeah. You hear, you hear the way it was, was produced and written, but I don't know. I could be wrong too, but that's just how it sounds to me.

[00:24:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's cool. But I feel like that on some like Dua Lipa songs too that I've heard it just

it Yeah, it just sounds like they were in the studio and like oh, this would be really cool Let's uh, let's throw some

[00:24:14] Guy Richey Gibbons: Almost, Almost, like it's like, here's a cool beat or here's a cool kick drum sound, or here's a cool synth. And then they start to build like a hook. And then somebody starts singing and riffing over that and then they come up with the hook for the, you know, song or whatever, and then they build the song out of those elements, you know, which is a, which is a fun way to produce, you know, I, I do that quite a bit.

Like when I'm working on the, my little things I do on Instagram, the tasty morsels, they're like little, just like 30 seconds of me playing some funky, whatever with keyboards and, you know, whatever, kind of a funky drum sound or whatever. And those I'm always just producing. at the same time because that's what brings that out.

It's that style of, you know, sound and song for me that's just like, it's fun to do that. but conversely I've had uh, my wife and I were out in Nashville last year and, you know what it's like going somewhere and like getting inspired by your surroundings. Like, there's no better food for song than, like, being out of the mundane and getting inspired by your surroundings.

Or, you know, some experience or something I feel like is a great way to get inspired for a song. And Nashville did that. That trip, for us was, it was just a special one. It was a lot of fun. And I, I wrote the lyrics. and melody just on, you know, my voice memos app. I didn't really have a chance to sit at a piano or anything until we got back.

But the, but the song was written like it, you know, it was one of those more like. I wrote the lyrics out, then added music to it, and it's yet to be produced, but I perform the song at live shows, and it's such a fun one, because I think it was conceived in a more traditional way, and it was inspired by something really meaningful, so it's, yeah, no production needed on that one, it's just me and piano, and it's a lot of fun to do that way.

[00:26:10] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm hmm. Yeah, I love music with just the ability to explore all those different types. You know, there's, there's no like invalid way of, of creating a song that way, which is cool.

[00:26:23] Guy Richey Gibbons: that's what's so cool about it. Speaking of songwriting, though, you just won a competition, dude.

did. you 

not? Yeah, it was an ASCAP songwriting competition.

[00:26:34] Jordan Smith Reynolds: hmm. Yeah. That was

[00:26:35] Guy Richey Gibbons: Dude, that's 

[00:26:35] Jordan Smith Reynolds: theme, the green theme contest for their studio green initiative, which was like, to help musicians have tools for environmental friendly, production of music and also performance of music and things like that. So it was

[00:26:49] Guy Richey Gibbons: Dude, that's so cool, man. That's legit, too. ASCAP, like, that's nuts. That's super cool, dude.

[00:26:55] Jordan Smith Reynolds: it was really cool.

And like, I was kind of surprised afterwards to learn, you know, that it was like, you know, they had this panel of like Crazy prolific songwriters and producers. Um, so that was, that was pretty shocking and exciting and all those emotions together.

[00:27:12] Guy Richey Gibbons: Dude, congrats.

[00:27:13] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Thank you.

[00:27:14] Guy Richey Gibbons: This episode brought to you by ASCAP. No, I'm

just kidding. They should, though. They should totally sponsor the podcast now that you've won. You're on their radar.

[00:27:21] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:27:22] Guy Richey Gibbons: cool, dude. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to tell you congrats, but no better time than in the middle of a

[00:27:26] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I actually did a podcast episode. They have ASCAP has one called ASCAP VERSED is their

[00:27:33] Guy Richey Gibbons: Uh huh.

[00:27:33] Jordan Smith Reynolds: So I jumped on and did a little interview with them, which was, it was just really

[00:27:37] Guy Richey Gibbons: Oh, that's cool, dude.

[00:27:38] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Yeah. Very fun. well, thank you so much for, for being on today. Guy. when is this song planned for release?

Do you have a release date for this or is

[00:27:46] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah,

[00:27:47] Jordan Smith Reynolds: TBD?

[00:27:47] Guy Richey Gibbons: September 22nd.

is when, the song is supposed to come out.

[00:27:51] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Okay. Awesome. So you've heard it here first. And if you come back to the, I mean, listen to it on Spotify. If you didn't listen to this episode until the 22nd, you're going to hear the song play after this interview. I'll update the podcast audio, but. Okay. Give, give Guy his streams and go to Podcasts or whatever to listen to it.

[00:28:09] Guy Richey Gibbons: Thank you everybody. Appreciate it.

[00:28:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Well, love having you on the show and obviously my family. It's, it's great to hang out and catch up with you.

[00:28:18] Guy Richey Gibbons: Yeah, dude. Love you, man. Thanks so much, dude. You're such a good dude. And this podcast is awesome. And everything you're up to is awesome. Thanks for having me on.

[00:28:25] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Thanks, Guy. All right. We'll see you.

[00:28:28] Guy Richey Gibbons: See ya.