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"Cool Kid" by Austin Carr

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LA based artist Austin Carr joins the Song Saloon to talk about Cool Kid.

The song lyrics have a lot to do with Los Angeles. Austin expresses his frustration with the prevalent attitude in LA to be in the "in" crowd and what people are willing to do to get there. As he was writing the song, he realized with regret that he is guilty of a lot of the behavior he started out trying to criticize. 

It's a really great blend of emotions and makes for great songwriting. Hope you enjoy the episode!

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[00:00:00] Austin Carr: I'm Austin Carr, and This is my song, Cool Kid.


[00:00:17] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Welcome to the Song Saloon. I'm your host, Jordan Smith Reynolds. If you're a first time listener, thanks for being here and a special thank you to our return listeners. If you enjoy the episode today, please consider sharing it with a friend. 

Today's guest is Austin Carr. Austin is inspired by classic singer songwriters and he approaches his songwriting from a narrative point of view with painfully honest lyrics.

He released his debut EP, Imaginary Boy, in 2020 and is working on a project to be released in 2024. This new project will focus on different types of romantic relationships as a gay man in an absurd city, a mental breakdown or two, and the ups and downs of making art in a brutal industry.

Welcome Austin.

[00:01:00] Austin Carr: Hi, thank you for having me at your saloon.

[00:01:03] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes. Thank you for coming to the saloon. Yee haw as requested.

[00:01:07] Austin Carr: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

[00:01:09] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. 

yeah, I wanted to start with talking about cool kid. where did this song come from?

[00:01:14] Austin Carr: Yeah, so, Cool Kid came from years and years of insecurity, I guess I would say. it's basically about the mask and the performance that we learn to put on as kids to avoid being singled out and bullied and how that can lead us to doing really bad things to other people as we get older. and my participation in it, it's a kind of confessional song.

[00:01:42] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah, it's just kind of that mask you have to put on as you're trying to fit in with, with people and, feel a sense of belonging. Right. Is that what you say would be part of it?

[00:01:51] Austin Carr: Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, LA in particular, obviously has a certain cool kid culture. And, um, when I first moved here, I definitely saw myself starting to really play into that just like, yeah, feeling like I was putting on a completely different performance of myself whenever I would go to a social event This song was very therapeutic breaking down kind of just why I was doing that and how I felt about doing that.

being very honest about that insecurity with myself.

[00:02:26] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, did you find it changed your relationship with other people in that way? Or was it just kind of an observational type of piece?

[00:02:33] Austin Carr: Yeah, it was, the song itself changed a lot. I think when I, when I first wrote the song, it was more of kind of like an angry kind of deal where I was very annoyed about that. that certain scene in LA, especially with industry people. So it was kind of like a call out song and I was like, cool kids suck.

And it sucks how they treat other people. 

And then as I kept writing it got a lot more personal it became a lot more about myself and my own insecurities. And it developed a lot more into like, my relationship with the cool kids over the years of my life and why I feel the need to put on this kind of performance a lot of times to impress people that I wouldn't even want to be myself. Um, yeah. ended up being a lot more, a confession of my own insecurity, rather than an angry call out that it started out as. And I was like, oh, I'm the problem too! Great!

[00:03:40] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. So did that start with like verse kind of content chorus when you're kind of switching perspectives and how you're writing? Um, do you remember?

[00:03:50] Austin Carr: yeah, I think for the most part, the verse stayed the same. I think the hook had a lot meaner of lyrics, like the conclusion of it was a lot meaner. I don't totally remember what it was. I mean, I have it on my phone, the verse has definitely changed a lot to be a lot more about like, why am I like this?

why do I spend so much time worrying about what other people are thinking of me? why is that a need that I feel to impress other people that I myself, again, like wouldn't necessarily even want to be or a culture that I don't necessarily respect. Yeah, but at the beginning it definitely, the verses were a lot more like petty And I was like, okay, I can't, I need to tone it back before I release this and Yeah, at this point, it's just venting.

[00:04:37] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. I love that you started with calling out the fake people, but then seeing it in yourself I love just the open ended questionness of it. Right. It's like, we need this belonging. We need to fit in and we want to be successful. And we often associate that success with these people that we don't want to be anything like.

[00:04:54] Austin Carr: yeah, I mean, the moment that kind of like inspired the song, I remember I was at like a party in LA with that kind of crowd. and I was doing like the rounds doing the schmoozy thing. And One of my real friends came up to me, like a friend that I know really well and knows me really well, and they said something to me that just really, like, hit me like a train.

And they were like, oh, I didn't, I didn't even recognize you. Like, you're acting like such a different person tonight. And I don't think they meant it as like, a call out,

[00:05:27] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, or dig or something.

[00:05:28] Austin Carr: yeah, exactly. They were just like, Oh, you're so, you're, you're being so bubbly in a way that you are not normally. for me, that comment, I was just like sitting alone in my apartment for weeks after it. Like, why does this bother me so much? Why is that? Why does that feel like such a like exposing comment eventually I got to the point where I just realized like oh It's the first time that somebody has come up to me in public and just been like hi I see that you're wearing a mask.

That's such a it's interesting that you're doing a performance right now And I can see that that's what you're doing And that's obviously, like, that's, that's something that I have been very aware of in myself for so long. And someone just pointing it out really threw me. And I was like, okay, I need to write something about this to, to process that.

[00:06:16] Jordan Smith Reynolds: I think that's a great place to move into live performance mode for this song. do you mind playing the song for us?

[00:06:23] Austin Carr: Yeah, I'm not going to do that today. Sorry.

[00:06:25] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah? 

[00:06:27] Austin Carr: No, I would love to.

[00:06:28] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Awesome.

[00:06:29] Austin Carr Performance: old to be this feckless Tossing rocks and towing lines Lord forgive me of my sins I've been earnest here again Better cover up my veins until it's time And I'll try to be your

cool kid and wear that skin around pretend i like their bells and whistles when i never hear sound i could decorate the background another pretty smile taking shots with every bully by your side the cool kid

I've got a lingering suspicion.

They can smell that I'm alive. I'm too soft and I'm too weak. I can't think the things they think. But I'll practice every day to change my mind. Cause I'd kill to be your cool kid And wear that skin around Pretend I like their bells and whistles When I ever hear a sound I could decorate the background Another day pretty smile taking shots with every bully by your side the cool kid kind and i'll

try to be a cool

hold my baggage like a And make you think that I'm a cool kid Till I'm too old and I'm too tired of all the trying The cool kid kind

[00:09:52] Jordan Smith Reynolds: all right Man, there's so many little things that I want to get into with this song. 

[00:09:58] Austin Carr: Ooh, I'm excited. 

[00:10:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: first I want to start with the whistle. I was going to ask you that when you sent me the song. Was, if it was you that was whistling in the track, and it is in the recorded version.

[00:10:09] Austin Carr: It is, yeah, yeah, it

is. I found out through this process that I am not a good whistler. And so it was like I, I really had to practice to be able to end up recording it. and that was the thing that took the longest to record because it's. For whatever reason, I was like, I have whistle stage fright as we're recording this.

And I was like, I don't know how to whistle anymore. I suddenly forgot this is the first time I've ever recorded a whistle. Um, but it ended up getting there. So we're good.

[00:10:45] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, and it sounds funky on a microphone too. So if you like, go too close to it, there's a bunch of air going through. not that I've done it. I actually don't have any whistle recordings, but I imagine that would be a problem. 

[00:10:55] Austin Carr: No, it is. Yeah. You have to, you have to angle it just right to be able to hear it. But obviously if you just blow air into a microphone, it sounds terrible. So yeah.

[00:11:05] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. and then also just the use of the whistle through it. First of all, I think it's really on brand for the song saloon. So I appreciate that. Um, the whistle sound makes just feels very saloony. would you say that the purpose of the whistle is kind of just like, nonchalance you're looking for as a cool kid?

Like, talk to me a little bit about why you use the whistle throughout the song.

[00:11:27] Austin Carr: yeah, so Pretty early on it wasn't in my first demo, but as soon as I sent the first demo I was like, I really want to add a whistle I have this idea for like like you're saying like a nonchalant little step down Western whistle melody and for me it was more I really wanted to get that kind of nostalgic quality in the song and something that kind of tied it to childhood.

And for me, that's what the whistle kind of served as a purpose for. and then also just in general, the vibe that we're going for, for, for the EP that I'm working on that Cool Kid is a part of. is kind of like mixing pop with country and western elements and once we like put a vintage effect on the whistle and reverbed the heck out of it That sounds like a, like a cowboy kind of like moseying through the desert. but the original intention behind it was to get that like nostalgic childhood kind of vibe to it,

but I like your interpretation of it. And I'm going to steal that now.

whistling, don't look at me. I'm, I'm fitting in just fine. Yeah.

[00:12:36] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. That's what I was going to say is it kind of reminds me of like a cartoon or something where the cartoon would be like doing something obviously wrong in the social setting. And then they turned around, the person turns around and they're like whistling in the corner.

Like it feels kind of that way to me. 

[00:12:51] Austin Carr: That's great. I love that. I wish that I had thought of that, but

[00:12:54] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah, you probably, you probably did like subconsciously there's like, that's all building, you know, it's so cool. Yeah.

[00:13:00] Austin Carr: I think that's something that folk and country music does. That's really cool taking a very sad thematic concept, but having like a really simple, almost happy sounding melody that goes along with it. I think that is really cool. Um, and so, yeah, that was, I.

I wanted something that felt kind of like bittersweet, not super depressing and contrasted a lot with, um, very, almost like embarrassingly insecure lyrics.

[00:13:29] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, and I, that's another part I want to talk about, was with the lyrics. I love the progression you have in, like, your need to fit in, in the song. Where it kind of starts off, it was like, I'll try to be your cool kid, like you're here and you're just, you're trying to fit in. But then, like, second time around, it's like, I'll kill to be your cool kid.

Which like, raises the stakes quite a bit from trying, you know?

[00:13:52] Austin Carr: Thank you for noticing that. I was really proud of that. I think that was kind of something that I wanted to show that I was like wrestling with when I was writing it is like you're saying like the first round. It's a lot of like, I'm trying to fit in, I'm trying to be someone that you see as valuable.

And then the second verse gets a little bit more into like, Oh, I'm not better than any of these people that I see as bullies. I in the past have also thrown people under the bus. I've made fun of people to be able to like fit in and be perceived as cool. And so I really liked the idea of like.

I'm not just going to try to be your cool kid. I would kill to be your cool kid, like I'm willing to throw people under the bus in the same way in order to like get that validation. And also the the full line is, I'd kill to be your cool kid and wear that skin around, which I thought was a cool, very dark way of getting that point across, whereas in the first verse it's, I'll try to be your cool kid and wear that skin around, which is a little bit more of like, Oh, I'm wearing a mask.

And the second version is like, I committed cool murder.

[00:15:01] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:15:02] Austin Carr: a Buffalo Bill kind of situation.

[00:15:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm hmm. Yeah, and something about how you have the verses too and the way it's structured harmonically and the way you're singing it Does make it very clear that you're not like super condoning your actions either, which I think it's really interesting It's like you kind of you see through the fakeness of it But you still like need it and you're fighting for it and willing to fight a ton for this thing.

[00:15:27] Austin Carr: I'm happy that that came across to you. Because like I was saying before, the first draft of it was a lot less like that. It was a lot more accusatory and kind of like I'm, I'm the victim in this situation and that just didn't really feel honest. And so as I was like writing more and tweaking things and editing things, I, I, I was like working very intentionally to try to get that in there of like, I'm also implicated in this.

And I'm also not proud of the stuff that I'm willing to do to be able to fit in with this crowd, you know?

[00:16:05] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, yeah, I think that perspective shift is just way more interesting of a story to listen to as well. as opposed to like, just feeling like you're being picked on all the time to Participating in it and also having conflicting feelings about what you're doing. I think it's just way more layered. Um,

what's your revision process like? Because it sounds like, you know, the song started as one thing and ended up very different. what's your typical revision process as a writer?

[00:16:32] Austin Carr: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if it's similar for you, but I tend to write a song and then take a long time to record it usually, unless it's something where I'm like, Oh, this is a bop. I got to record it. but yeah, usually I will like, I like to write a song and sit with it for a while and make sure it feels right.

Cause I'm kind of always. tweaking things up until the day that I'm recording lyrics Which is probably not good. I don't think that's the best way to do that

[00:17:02] Jordan Smith Reynolds: it makes it

hard to remember the lyrics, that's for sure.

[00:17:04] Austin Carr: yeah, no that Whenever I record I have like a notes app where for some lines. I'm like this feels right And then for other lines, I will have like seven different versions of it

[00:17:15] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm hmm.

[00:17:16] Austin Carr: Which one feels correct? Yeah, I guess my process is that I just go with whatever, feels honest or like feels like the right match for, the rest of the song.

it's not very. Mathematical or logical?

[00:17:34] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm, And you mentioned you sit with songs for a long time. So, I really relate to that too. The song that I just released, 1933, in November, that song I've had I don't think I played it the same time that we we played because we played the same night, right? At Saturdays at 7?

[00:17:51] Austin Carr: Yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't think so, but I, yeah, I don't fully remember because I was having a, nervous breakdown that night about performing, so.

[00:18:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, relatable. but for 1933, for me, I, cause the reason I brought that up is I may have even played that song like way back then and I just released it. it was one of those songs that just took forever to get the bridge in particular to sit right. And a few of the verses, it was like 80 percent there and the chorus felt really good.

And that was after I had written the chorus before and it was a completely different song. it's so weird for me. It's like songs, you know, for some people, songs just come and they like. You know, in 15 minutes and it's like great. And that's happened to me very, very rarely.

[00:18:39] Austin Carr: Really? 

[00:18:40] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah. And it's, it's great when it does happen and it's, you know, short and you, you get everything you need really fast. But for 1933, it was like, just took so long and I would just shelf it for a while and then, you know, would be thinking about it randomly and stuff would pop up, but yeah, so I really relate to that, putting the song on the shelf for a minute and just seeing.

What feels right and, continuing to tweak it. 

[00:19:03] Austin Carr: that's so interesting that you say that about the bridge for 1933, because I was going to say coming into this, that's like my favorite part of the song. It's such a cool swell of everything at once.

Um, so it's interesting that that is like, that was the thing that took the most time and time and care.

[00:19:20] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. And so many different iterations of the bridge too. It just like never quite worked. And then finally it clicked into place. So, uh, thank you for saying that. Cause that, it just took way too long. 

[00:19:31] Austin Carr: it's a, 

it's a very beautiful song. I've been listening to it. And the arrangement of everything is also, yeah, Very, very, very pretty. So, congratulations!

[00:19:40] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Thank you. that's Mike McClellan who's doing most of the arrangement on that. He did a fantastic job. Wrote the cello part and everything. I think you might have met Chris at the Saturdays at 7. Chris Rohrer played the cello for that. 

[00:19:53] Austin Carr: Oh, yeah.

[00:19:55] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah.

[00:19:56] Austin Carr: It feels that song in particular of your songs, I feel like would be so good in a, like a film. It feels like so cinematic, you know?

[00:20:06] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Oh, thank you. 

[00:20:07] Austin Carr: So get on that.

Talk to Tarantino.

[00:20:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes, I'll call him up. Yeah, I would love to do that. Have you worked much in the sync side of things? Trying to get your songs into TV film?

[00:20:20] Austin Carr: I'm trying. I mean, I, I have submitted songs for sync before, but I've never, the only time, like, I don't know if people ever do this to you, but I've gotten a few random messages on like, like, or whatever, where it'll be like student films or people doing little indie documentaries and they'll be like, can I use this?

And I'm always like, yeah, sure, go ahead. I don't care. But, but nothing that is, you know, paying me, which would be nice.

[00:20:48] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That would be nice. 

I haven't had that very much with, uh, student films reaching out. That would be cool. 

Um, And you'd mentioned 2024 getting a project together. Is "cool kid" part of this project? 

[00:21:00] Austin Carr: It is, yeah.

Cool Kid has been like the second single that I've put out for this EP that I'm working on, which is going to be five songs, maybe like, maybe an acoustic version of one of the songs. We'll see. so the EP is a collection of songs that are kind of my. love letter to LA and also Simultaneously my hate letter to LA

[00:21:27] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes.

[00:21:28] Austin Carr: yeah, it's it's just it's a really weird city every I think 

[00:21:33] Jordan Smith Reynolds: An absurd city, even. 

[00:21:34] Austin Carr: some would say absurd.

And,

[00:21:36] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:21:42] Austin Carr: for a reason and it's a city of very ambitious people and it's a city of dreamers like they classically say. but obviously at the same time that breeds a lot of, weird relationships between people that breeds a lot of people using each other to get ahead.

and. Yeah, I just, I, I've like, I was like, I've had all these weird experiences over the years of living here. And I kind of want to dig into that a little bit and have the, the overall theme be that connecting idea of I love LA and I hate LA.

[00:22:17] Jordan Smith Reynolds: It is such a strange combination of, drive and energy. Like, I feel like New York just feels so different than L. A. Have you spent much time East Coast?

[00:22:28] Austin Carr: A little bit. Yeah, I, I, it's, it's definitely a different vibe. I think for, for LA specifically, there's something about so many hopeful people being here, while also just daily people being completely crushed to a pulp. That contrast is like very interesting. Whereas in New York, you know, like, of course there's a huge art scene and all of that, but I think that most people who are dreamers in New York want to like work in business or they're like going for a very specific goal in a different kind of scene.

Whereas here it's people who are like, I'm a star, I'm going to be a star.


I don't know, yeah, that, that, that mix of people, the mix of optimism and also just like complete rejection at the same time is such a weird combination to always be around.

[00:23:18] Jordan Smith Reynolds: and then there's also the fact that it's beautiful always outside where you can just feel like you can coast and not do anything and wake up like three months later and be like, Oh, wow, I didn't do anything for my craft that whole time. Um, I don't know if that's happened to you, but it's just like, it's one of those.

Places that just feels very weird. It's like, was it Calypso in the, the Odyssey where it's like everything is okay. So they, they like stick around in the journey for years and then realize that they were like had something they needed to do and go and leave again. it feels like that place a little bit sometimes.

And then it also is just like a hub for creativity too. It's just, it's, yeah. A very weird grouping of feelings and, and emotions and stuff.

[00:24:02] Austin Carr: it really is, it's like a, a time suck because It's always beautiful. Things basically always look the same when you look out your window, and there's no seasons. So the passage of time is, like, really kind of hard to deal with. Kind of like you're saying of, it's hard to keep track of, like where you are in your, in, in creative projects.

And also just like, you look up sometimes, and it's been eight months, and you don't, you never really process that because everything around you has, And for me, especially like when I, I have a really hard time remembering what year things happened in LA

specifically, because I'm like, it's always the same.

It's always the same.

[00:24:44] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:24:45] Austin Carr: This is so off topic, but for some reason, I have noticed that LA doesn't really care about holidays in the same way that other people care about holidays. Like, at Christmas, everyone's gone. Everyone leaves. But like, normally when you're in, I don't know, like, Philadelphia or Pittsburgh or something, you know what holiday it is because everybody is decked out.

And in LA, it's like the bare minimum. They'll put like a pumpkin outside a store.

[00:25:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. We don't believe in seasons here.

guess holidays kind of gets thrown into that too. 

[00:25:14] Austin Carr: Mm

[00:25:15] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

Well, I'm down for the, the LA hate love compilation album happening sometime. So we were talking right before this podcast that the last song that I had written was an LA hate love relationship song as well.

So it must be a popular theme for artists that are, that are striving and working out here.

So for this project you have coming out in 2024, do you have all the songs recorded and everything? Yeah.

[00:25:40] Austin Carr: No. Um, so, it has changed a little bit over time. I take a really long time to record things. Kind of like we were saying before of, I like to like sit with a song in the writing process for a long time. I also like to do that once we start recording and producing things. so originally this EP was going to have four songs and One of them was totally different. That's been scrapped added two new songs. So at this point we have three recorded and then we're producing out the other two But yeah, so I, it was supposed to come out like January of 2024. And now I'm like, uh, we're gonna, we're shooting for spring, maybe summer potentially, but I'm, a lot more excited about the songs that we added and swapped out.

so that has been, a good change.

[00:26:40] Jordan Smith Reynolds: And that can be a really hard thing to do as an artist. I feel like because of the whole sunk cost feeling of, oh, I went through all this effort to record this, and you might have involved other people in that process too, and then just to be like, it's not the right song. Like, that's, that's really difficult.

And honestly, I don't know if I've even done that ever. Like once I get down the production train with someone, I'll typically finish it. what's that relationship look like for you with production? 

Are you, working with one producer for this thing or do you have a team around it?

What does that look like?

[00:27:14] Austin Carr: I have a team of 50 people and we're, no, um, I, yeah, I'm working with, one producer for the whole project named Alyssa Wilkins, who is incredibly talented and it's been such a blast working with them. But, I, yeah, I, when, when we first started talking, I was like, in the past, I, have been more like, here's the song, here's a demo.

I'm really passionate about like how the, the vocals sound and the lyrics. But beyond that, I haven't been as involved in the production. And then more recently as like, I started actually making music. I just kept being like, Oh no, I, I hear it differently in my head. like, really specific ideas, turns out, for a lot of the songs that I write.

Um, so this EP, we've been kind of more co producing it, and I've gotten to be really involved in the process of, like, arranging it, and, which has been awesome, like, I, I think that's why the most recent music just feels a lot more like me, and it's been really exciting, I'm, I'm, I'm excited to, finish it, because I'm probably only, like, 50 percent through the process,

[00:28:28] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Right. And then you have all the other headache things when you don't have a team of 50 people to think about like the. How are you going to share it with people? And cause I know I've talked to a few artists on here that it's like, you know, once you record the thing, it's really easy to just kind of let it go and be like, Oh, I put it out in the world.

Like, and you kind of want to just be done with it because he works so hard on it that, you know, and then once you get it out there, you want it to like leave it to everyone else to kind of deal with. But there's so much you have to do as an artist to actually get people to kind of tune in 

[00:28:57] Austin Carr: mean, that is, it's when the work kind of begins, which

is unfortunate because I don't think that is the process that that obviously like we enjoy as much the promotion and the marketing side of things. And I always have a hard time figuring out like the timeline of when to start promoting things and.

that is not as fun for me. Figuring out the visuals can be fun, and like, getting that to match the song. But the, the, this day I pushed the pre save link. This day I show a video. This day I release the, yeah. That I'm, I've been really bad at in the past, but I'm trying to learn via other people.

Including you! So,

[00:29:40] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:29:41] Austin Carr: you! 

[00:29:42] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, sure. Yeah, it's I think the trick for it is to make it artistically fulfilling and I don't know and honestly, I don't know how to do that most of the time, you know for the for the promotion side. So if you have any thoughts on it, let's let's continue to talk about that because it's it is a tricky thing.

[00:30:03] Austin Carr: I recently have something that has helped me is being like What if I don't take the marketing so seriously and not in like, oh, I just will be lazy with it and not care about it but more of like if what if I have a sense of humor with things and What if I like making promo videos that are funny to me because like you're saying if it feels more fulfilling I think you have more motivation to to do it So yeah, I think like Having a little bit more fun with it has been helpful, but

also. We'll see

[00:30:35] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know who does that really well? That we both know? is Jessica Vines? Do you know Jessica Vines,

[00:30:44] Austin Carr: I don't know her personally, but I, obsessively follow her and 

[00:30:49] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, okay, cool. Um, because I know Jessica Vines played, at Saturday, Saturdays at 7. And, um, Jessica, I've loved the videos she's posted recently for her EP that came out. she was on the Song Saloon as well. but she, she posted a video recently of her showing her song, but like, a really fake.

Bad version of her song to her sister and like live tape the reaction that she had to it and just like her sister Just trying to hold it together and just be like 

[00:31:21] Austin Carr: this 

is

so, yeah. 

[00:31:22] Jordan Smith Reynolds: You can't yeah, you can't post this and it could and It's really funny

[00:31:27] Austin Carr: that's, I I love that. That's what I like, I really want to do. Um, 'cause they always have those videos of like, playing it for my sister, playing it

for my best friend for the first time. I love it when people. Parody that a little bit and I next time I have a dentist appointment And I really want to just be like playing my new song for like the dental assistant For the first time

playing this for the receptionist for the first time

[00:31:56] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yep. 

[00:31:57] Austin Carr: and they're just like what is this?

Why are you doing this to me? It's Tuesday

[00:32:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, I love that I'll have to send you A video. There's a, have you heard of Austin Archer. I He's, isn't 

[00:32:11] Austin Carr: really cool name.

[00:32:12] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, he's an L. A. musician, influencer, actor, kind of hybrid but I'll send you a video he did. He does, like, my favorite parody of the listening to them in the car speakers for the first time.

it's 

it's great, he just, he just, like rips indie artists apart and it's, it's really

[00:32:30] Austin Carr: I love, yeah. Anything that's like kind of making fun of, of the things that we all have to do. that's chef's kiss.

[00:32:39] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Well, thank you so much for being on today. I know we've been going for a while. and I'm really excited about Cool Kid and it's been fun to dive into it and listen to it more and that it's involved in this bigger project for 2024. where can people find you online and follow, follow that project?

[00:32:57] Austin Carr: Oh yeah. I forgot about that part of this. Um,

[00:33:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:33:01] Austin Carr: to follow along, uh, you can follow me on Instagram, which is @austinthecarr. Austin car was stolen, unfortunately. Yeah, other than that, I guess that's probably the easiest, the easiest way.

[00:33:14] Jordan Smith Reynolds: And you're on Spotify and Apple music and this song is out already. So yeah, please do go stream it. 

[00:33:20] Austin Carr: Please, 

[00:33:20] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah, we're begging you. yeah, well, thank you so much for being on today. This was, this was a blast to chat about your song a bit.

[00:33:27] Austin Carr: Yeah, thank you so much for having me. It's, it's, hey, this is a great podcast.

People should tune in. I don't think enough people really dig into, dig into like the lyrics of it. And I think that's like half the song. Like why? that's a big part of the art of it. So I, yeah, I really appreciate what you're doing.

[00:33:46] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Thank you. Yeah. And I think for folk minded, musicians, like we both are that, you know, sometimes it's even more than half the song. So, um, So I appreciate your take on that. yeah. Thanks so much, Austin. It was great to have you here. I'll see you later.

[00:34:02] Austin Carr: Bye 

[00:34:04] Jordan Smith Reynolds: See ya! 

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