[00:00:00] Casey Conroy: Hey, my name is Casey Conroy and this is my song, Glad You Hate Me.

[00:00:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Hi, welcome to the song saloon. If you enjoy this episode, please share it with a friend. Today. I am with songwriter Casey Conroy. 

Casey Conroy is originally from Orlando, Florida. And is an indie pop singer songwriter. With her recent releases, Casey's music has landed her spots on playlists such as Spotify's Fresh Finds and Apple's Feels and New in Pop, as well as features in blogs such as Ones to Watch, Ear Milk, and NPR's All Songs Considered.

In a raving review from Ear Milk, Casey is described as redefining what it means to be a modern pop artist. The core of her music is in its sincerity. Casey, welcome to the show!

[00:00:49] Casey Conroy: Hi Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.

[00:00:52] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes, thank you for being here. Um, I'm excited to get into glad you hate me. 

Could you tell me a little bit about how that song came about?

[00:01:00] Casey Conroy: Yeah, so I you know one day I was in a coffee shop and I had overheard the girl next to me talking to her friend and she said something along the lines of Honestly, I'm just glad he hates me because at least he feels something and I thought this concept was so Interesting and I actually am posting a video talking a little bit about this on my social media but I feel like my favorite way to write songs is to Observe the world and then fill in the gaps of what I don't know In my in my brain and through my songwriting.

And so I heard this This girl and I wanted to know more about The relationship and how they got to that point and what the relationship must be like now for her to say something like that. Um, and that's what sparked. Glad you hate me.

[00:01:51] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's so cool. Um, I love the whole like coffee shop overheard something. Angle for writing songs. 

Does this happen a lot for you or is this

[00:02:01] Casey Conroy: This is my first coffee shop one, but I, I constantly am keeping my ears open and, and if it's not just like people I pass on the street, it's, you know, stories my friends tell me or, you know, things my family members are going through and it's just some things that I go through too as well. But I love when I don't know the ending and I don't know all the details and the limit is just, there's just.

possibilities and you get to create the story. And, you know, I loved this idea that there was like almost a relief in that he was hating her or whoever was hating them. Uh, and I think that I wrote a song once called as deep as you love me. And the concept is that like love and hate are not all that different.

And I just love this concept that there are so many colors on the spectrum between love and hate. And it, not everything is so, Black and white, uh, and relationships are so intricate and so complicated. I love writing songs about that So glad you hate me as another one of those

[00:03:03] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. And I also love the flexibility. A lot of it, not being directly a personal experience. Um, I, yeah, as a songwriter, I, there's kind of a freedom to writing someone else's story. Like, like you said, you can go any direction.

[00:03:18] Casey Conroy: Yeah, because when I write songs about myself sometimes like when I you know, when i'm writing about a situation i'm going through I tend to be Maybe too literal because I know all the details and I'm like, well, I'm not gonna write that because that's not really how it went So I just I love when I force myself to create something from nothing and and you know, there is no truth There is no false and the story is is all your own.

So that's my favorite way to write songs.

[00:03:47] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yes. That's awesome. Well, let's go ahead and turn to the live performance now. I'd love to hear it. 

 So, wonderful job on the song. 

I wanted to ask you a little bit about, Willy, because Willy was here playing the guitar and Willy has played with you, I saw at Saturdays at Seven when we came, uh, Willy was there playing music with you as well. does he, kind of fill, like, a producer role?

What does he, what does he do with, working with you on your music? 

Yes,

[00:07:47] Casey Conroy: we're we're really a partnership and a team and in a lot of ways So we write most all of this music together produce it together We're a couple as well. So we're just wearing a lot of hats But we've been building this project together for the last few years and it's really amazing to have a partner in this but yeah, he plays guitar for me and all the shows and I think that's one of our favorite things to do is that we get to just kind of pick up the guitar and go anywhere and we have our own, you know, we can play off each other.

We're so comfortable and there's like an intimacy and comfortability that I think really comes out when we get to play together. Uh, and we've written a lot of these songs together. So he understands. Like the way I sing it, he can, he can play it and that matches really well. So, but yeah, that Saturdays at seven was one of my, one of my favorite shows.

I'm glad we got to cross paths at that one. Those are always good shows. Shout out to Saturdays at seven.

[00:08:42] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, shout out to Saturdays at 7. That's awesome. and to your point with kind of matching the energy as you're both playing, I was thinking about how difficult it is to really dedicate all of the, the attention you need to phrase and give everything to a vocal performance when you're also playing the instrument at the same time.

At least it is for me. I know some, some people can really, can really do that thing, but I was watching you as you were interpreting, what you're feeling at the moment as a vocalist. And I imagine it's kind of freeing to be able to just focus directly on that as you have someone that's kind of giving that same energy as an instrumentalist.

[00:09:18] Casey Conroy: You know, it's funny because when I first started performing, I grew up writing on the piano, so that's how I write all of my songs. And, I just would not perform without my piano. That was kind of like my safe space. and then over time it got a little difficult to lug a piano around. And, uh, so I just, you know, we just started playing with the guitar and it's been a while since I've played with the piano and now I'm a little bit out of practice.

And so now I have to think more and I kind of have that little barrier. So I do kind of feel like that now, but there was a time where like, if I had my piano, I could just close my eyes and feel like I was just right at home and right in my living room. playing, like writing the songs and playing them.

but I, you know, I had a vocal, my amazing vocal coach, Melanie, she told me once we were talking about pitch, she said, um, you know, you don't have a problem with pitch. It's just sometimes if you ever sing the wrong note, you probably just have a problem with being present. And the idea is that sometimes when we're, if we're not in the moment, when we're singing songs, we're just so worried about.

the next five notes and we forget to think about the note that's coming right now. And if you're present as a vocalist and the intention is there, you don't have, you don't worry about those things so much as your, your body and your heart knows, and there's a muscle memory about it. But I think sometimes when those mistakes happen, it's just because we're living 30 seconds in the present and not.

right now. So I try to be like very present and very intentional, when I'm singing, which isn't really hard. I, I get really lost when I was singing. That's my safe space for sure.

[00:10:53] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Mm hmm. That's awesome. I'm totally gonna steal that from Melanie.

 I love that it's a presence issue, not a pitch issue. That is, that's gold. I love

[00:11:01] Casey Conroy: It's gold, right? She's, she's fantastic. yeah, I, cause I, I once was like, there's this note and every time there's a song, that every time I sing it, a couple of the notes are a little pitchy. And she's like, but you don't have a pitch problem. You're just so in your head about the song and you've gotten into your head about this is a hard song for me to sing that while you're singing, you're not thinking about.

The intention. You're not thinking about the notes. You're thinking, oh my gosh, I'm scared to hit this note. Oh my gosh I'm scared of what's coming next and that's what really causes you to mess up, you know

[00:11:31] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. I've, I've definitely tried to express that same sentiment to students, just like, not nearly as eloquently. So that's gonna be nice

[00:11:38] Casey Conroy: There, there's your little cliff, you can use it. Yeah, there, there it is.

[00:11:42] Jordan Smith Reynolds: so tell me a little bit about your journey to this song. so you wrote this one in Coffee Shop, or at least like the, the spark of an idea. yeah, where does this fall in your artist trajectory? when did you write it? And, uh, were you writing a bunch of the songs at the time?

That sort of thing.

[00:11:56] Casey Conroy: Uh, so an amazing friend and producer, his name is Michael Bough. He's amazing because every month without fail, he texts me a pack of loops and, productions that he's been working on. I'll always go through them and, you know, sometimes something will just spark.

But when I heard. the track that initially inspired Glad You Hate Me. I was like, oh my gosh, this is the perfect song to tell this story. And funny enough, I think it's a song that had I not, Gotten his loop. I maybe you would have never written especially I like the way it was written It's like it's a little bit different than how I normally write and the kind of the sounds and stuff.

So Honestly when I heard that loop I you know I put it in my studio one and I kind of Did a really simple I produced it out a little bit and then I wrote glad you hate me in Maybe 20 minutes. Uh, it was one of I feel like as a songwriter you might relate to this like I feel like i'm the kind of person where either like I sit down and it just It's already written or it's like months of like, okay There's the one part of the idea now like come back and fix it and you know but this song it just like It just really flowed so quickly and then, um, I brought it to Will and, and we finished out the production together.

but yeah, I, I mean, this song is so, it's very quirky and it's kind of freaky in the way that it's very, uh, it contradicts itself a lot. Because it's It's so like, you're relieved that this person hates you, which is weird. And I think it comes from this idea that indifference is the true indicator that somebody has moved on.

So you know that if they're harboring a feeling as deep as hate, then you meant something enough to them and you're still holding onto them enough for them to be, bringing up those feelings in themselves. So it's, it's kind of like a, it's kind of a dark comedy, this

[00:13:49] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, it is and I think your choice of words in the chorus with I might be glad you hate me now Really makes it work where if you're like, I'm glad you hate me now, then it turns into a completely different song,

[00:14:02] Casey Conroy: That's true. I, I think it is one of those things where like, you know, you're a little crazy, you know, you're like, ah, this doesn't really make sense. I probably shouldn't be saying this. but that's how I feel. Uh, and you're kind of, you're treading lightly. You know, you're kind of like, I'm in, I'm in some deep waters here.

I know I'm, I'm getting to a really dark, emotional place with this, 

[00:14:23] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah

And like to go, um, off of where your melody choices, like really merge with the song. When you sing that, for that, at least I know you're feeling something, um, it's like unresolved, which is really cool. I think.

[00:14:39] Casey Conroy: Wow. You're, you're perfect. Wow. This is awesome. Yeah, you really get it. Like it, I think there is, there's so much, um, there's so much uneasiness, you know, in this song. And, and I think that's what's really exciting about when you start a song, from a loop there is a melody that's already in place because of the guitars and then the chord progressions, you know, and so you don't really, you kind of just like allow yourself to write the melodies that the track is already making you feel.

And I think that allows for, you know, for such a, what's the word when things like, uh, 

[00:15:14] Jordan Smith Reynolds: it's not synergy,

[00:15:15] Casey Conroy: yeah, it's like a sinner. It's see what it is Yeah I think it is kind of synergy like it allows for such a synergy between the track and the melodies that are happening underlying-ly and then also like the melody that you're singing, you know so I love that about when I get a loop and I always start when I get loops like that I'll just kind of get on the mic and I'll just freestyle melodies and then I'll kind of like go back and pick out what I like and, and so it, yeah, there's just a really nice synergy that happens when you write like that because they're almost kind of writing each other at the same time, you know?

[00:15:46] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:15:47] Casey Conroy: And lyrically too, like the way the words sound and the syllable choices, like all of that, all of that matters and I, and works towards like the, the flow of the song, you know? They're all kind of writing each other at the same time, if that makes sense.

[00:16:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. And how, you mentioned this song came to you really fast. The, the 20 minutes. I don't, I mean, I don't really relate to songs coming out in 20 minutes, to be honest.

[00:16:08] Casey Conroy: When I was saying that, you were like, no, she's 

crazy. 

[00:16:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: that would be wonderful. Yeah. Um, no, I have had a few that have come out, like maybe in an hour's time. So like, I do relate that, you know, things can happen a little quicker, but the, whenever that's happened for me, it's when I have a very clear concept of what this song is at its heart.

And it sounds like you had that with. You had that hook already given to you, right? But I might be glad he hates me now.

Um, 

[00:16:35] Casey Conroy: Yeah, exactly. And so I, I think the choruses had kind of written themselves. Like that was almost just there um, and so really the verses were the fun part of creating the rest of the story and, and also, uh, the ending, which when you hear the, the track, it goes to a really fun place for a production perspective, but it's, it's really.

a breakdown, like you get to the end of the song where you kind of like start singing it kind of soft and, and it really grows and it's you, it's kind of catching up to you, you know, like two steps away from a breakdown. Like you're, you know, you're falling really fast and you're kind of just like opening your arms and allowing for it.

So there is like, um, a chaos, but it's, you're not fighting it, which is the interesting part of it. You're just kind of allowing it to. To come over you. You're almost like, enjoying the sadness.

All of it really is telling a story. Everything. Not only the lyrics, but the melody and the production choices and the way the vocals are, are sung and recorded and they're all working towards that same story.

Mm hmm.

[00:17:41] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's so cool. I love how, that two steps away from a breakdown section is repeated. I see four times

in it, right? So you really do get to live in that space, like you're saying, and kind of feel that continually just like break down further.

[00:17:55] Casey Conroy: It does it's kind of like the imagery of it is you're kind of like holding your knees like rocking back and forth and After the first two times, you know There's that octave vocal that comes in that like automated voice and it's almost like you've you've washed yourself It's like the If you had like the angel and the devil on your shoulders, it's almost like those inner energies working and talking and you've, you know, your own self is kind of backed away from it even.

And so, yeah, there's so, chaos is definitely, the word, but it's definitely like a controlled. Chaos. All the way through the end. And the song really, it starts very small and it slowly opens up and allows for that growth to happen, very naturally, like almost to the point that you're like, Oh, just let it explode.

You know what it, it never really does.

[00:18:46] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Interesting. and so you said you got this from you have some loops that you work off of for the producer. how did that influence your writing of like, you know, okay, now I want to do this kind of bridgy outro section. do you get that same idea as you're working on the same loop or how does that, how does that process come up with different song pieces?

[00:19:05] Casey Conroy: Yeah. I don't write, I don't write like that super often, but when I do just, you know, hear a track or a loop that inspires me, um, It's kind of fun because the first step of that and I mentioned it a little bit is like I kind of go through my own process of Cutting the parts of the loop I like and putting them in the sections that make sense and then bringing in Other production elements or other samples.

Um, and this one specifically actually now that I think of it I think that end piece wasn't written until willie and I came together and started producing it out And I love it because he always he will think of things that I obviously didn't think of and he Comes to the song with a different emotion and a different perspective than I did And so that's why I think that end part like it allows.

like it works together, but it definitely feels like Like an elevation. It kind of, uh, like it allows that emotion to kind of live a little differently. So that part we, I think, I think we built that together, um, and then just really had fun and let it kind of run the way it wanted to. But I think it's really amazing when you have, you know, so it's me, Willie, and Michael on this song and we all have our different strengths and we all have our different tendencies as writers and producers and, artists.

And so, uh, I think when those three things come together and merge, you can get something that's really unique.

[00:20:23] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Do you do a lot of collaboration on your songwritings? Like typically?

[00:20:28] Casey Conroy: Typically, no. Um, typically it's, it's most everything is me and Will. but I'm the kind of person is like when, when I fall in love with a collaborator and a writer and they're in that trust circle, then I, I just love creating with them, but I'm definitely the kind of artist that likes to find their team and.

put in the time to create a space of, you know, open intimacy and vulnerability and trust. cause I think that great songs only can come when you're willing to be open like that with other people and not scared to fail. and so I definitely put a lot of time into, cultivating really strong relationships with the people I do collaborate with.

I'm, I'm very picky about that process.

[00:21:10] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

[00:21:11] Casey Conroy: I, cause I think, I think songwriting is such great responsibility. Because in the end, the songs that you put out, your fans and the people that love you, they're going to put their headphones in and walk around with you all day. If you're lucky enough to have fans that are, you know, willing to do that, or they're going to put you on in their car when they're trying to get excited, or they're going to cry with you when they're in their breakup.

And so for me as an artist, I feel like. If it's not real, and if it's not honest, I can't stand behind it because I know people are going to, you know, hopefully attach to it and make it part of their lives, and that has to come from a really real space for me. Whether that's a really fun, upbeat song to go, like, hang out with your friends, or that's, you know, the song that you're, you're gonna hold onto in a dark time.

And so, I just think that's an amazing responsibility we have as artists to put out this stuff we really believe in.

[00:22:06] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes. I want to get into that a little bit more. how do you gauge that? Is that kind of like a gut intuition thing? 

[00:22:12] Casey Conroy: Totally gut intuition. It's just the ability to be really honest with yourself. Do you, why are you writing this song? What are your intentions? Do you actually love this? Like, would, for me, it always comes down to, would, if it wasn't you, would you listen to it? Like, if this song came on my release radar, on Spotify, would I save it?

And would I want to make it a part of my life, as a music lover? First, you know, because I think so often like I think first and foremost, yes, I'm an artist, but I'm a music lover I love to consume music I love to find artists that make me excited and I want to put them on my playlists and you know Live my life with them.

And so if I wouldn't consume it, why would I expect there's anybody else in the world?

[00:23:00] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Sure.

[00:23:01] Casey Conroy: think that's the only thing we really have as artists, because you need to be different. So you need, so you don't want to follow, right, like what everybody else is doing. But the only way I think that you can know for sure that there'd be anybody in the world that would like what you do is if you like it.

Cause we're not all that different. But if you're putting out stuff that you don't even think is that great, why, why would you expect anybody else to put the time in to think it's great? You know?

[00:23:26] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. Good. 

Do you have any, uh, practices or anything to kind of, uh, strip away any personal attachment you have to songs? Because I feel like, you know, when you've put in some work to do it No?

[00:23:38] Casey Conroy: I'm horrible about this. 

[00:23:40] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:23:41] Casey Conroy: every song is my child. Like, 

[00:23:45] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:23:47] Casey Conroy: there, there is no case, really, where The song, you know has come in, you know, I write it really quickly and or somebody sent it to me And I record the vocals and then I just put it out the next day like it Maybe I put it out fast, but it had to come from like a moment from me that, there was a song that, um, called Mad that I have out, that Willie and I wrote one night, and we were just extremely excited about it, and we were like, you know, we just want to get this out, we want people to hear it right away, and we did a music video, the song, mix mastered, released within one week of the day we wrote it.

[00:24:21] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's wild.

[00:24:23] Casey Conroy: can appreciate that not knowing like the process, right? And, but it was right for the song, um, and it was right for the experience, uh, that we had. But there's never a song that doesn't come out that I haven't like, spent nights Awake, thinking about, and dreaming about, and listening in my own head, and crying over, or jumping around, being excited about.

And, that's, uh, it's a hard place to be, because, songs, for the most part, never live up to the expectation you have for it. Like, not because they do bad, it's just like, every song I release, like, I want it and I think it could be the number one song in the world, you know, like not to sound weird about it, but So you constantly like live in this place where it's like, okay Well, the songs are never gonna live up to necessarily like my own expectation of them because of like the way you hold on to them but then I think it just like allows for such a relationship and a connection Uh with your fan base because you love the songs the way you hope they'll love them You know,

[00:25:26] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah.

For 

[00:25:27] Casey Conroy: hard. 

It's really hard.

[00:25:29] Jordan Smith Reynolds: hard. 

[00:25:30] Casey Conroy: It's, I, I'm not even going to sugar coat it. I'm like, I get, I'm just obsessed. When I put out a song, I, I love it. Like, I can't explain it any other way other than I love, love the song. If it's out, I love it, you know.

[00:25:48] Jordan Smith Reynolds: That's great. It's funny because I've talked to some artists that they feel like they work on it for so long that they lose that attachment. So it's great to hear your perspective where it's just like, you're just all in, 

[00:25:59] Casey Conroy: Well, it's in, okay, so that's an, that's an interesting thing. Because I think. There def I think that's like, that does happen too. That I don't, that I don't think that necessarily takes away about like, of how much I love the song and how much it means to me. But I mean, we've been doing, uh, like a lot of will's been mixing, uh, a lot of our stuff like, glad you hate me.

Um, he did most of that mix. By himself, but that's a different thing because like now we're not like outsourced like it's not going away and then coming back to us and we're maybe hearing it like three or four times while we revise or hearing it like 50 times every day and going over every little tiny part and what I always tell myself is like what happens in that moment is you stop listening to the song and Overall, like at that point, you're not taking the song, you're not listening to the lyrics or the melodies or the things that made you fall in love with the song in the first part.

You're hearing every tiny little nuance and that's what really drives you crazy. But as a listener, you never hear a song for the first time and start being like, Oh, that snare, Oh, too hot. The snare is too hot. You're either saying, Oh, this melody really connects with me. This lyric really connects with me, or it doesn't.

You're not, you're not getting into the intricacies of, there are so many songs on my playlist that I listen to that I think are the worst mix. Ever heard but I love this song and I will listen to it You know just to death or there's songs where like I don't care for the whole song But there's one line in the chorus that just i'm obsessed with and I will listen to that song on repeat To hear that one line and so when I start getting to that point and i'm in that process I try to remember that and remind myself to step back.

It's like you're not judging it as a whole right now You're judging it as every tiny little flaw and as a listener, that's not you know, people don't listen like that. 

Exactly.

[00:27:56] Jordan Smith Reynolds: compartmentalizing, knowing what your task is at hand at the moment. Yeah, that's very cool. so before I let you go, I want to talk about what you have coming up and also, where people can find you. Thank you again so much, by the way, for coming on

this. It's been so fun chatting with you about your songwriting process and everything.

Um,

[00:28:16] Casey Conroy: So,

[00:28:17] Jordan Smith Reynolds: yeah. What's coming up for you?

[00:28:19] Casey Conroy: uh, okay. Yeah. So a lot. since I kind of moved to LA, I took a lot of time off releasing to just write as much music as I possibly could. I really wanted to figure out what I wanted to say as an artist and I wanted to. create a sound that was, you know, unique and excited me. Uh, I wrote more songs than I've ever written in my whole life.

Uh, and so now I have basically about a dropbox of 18 songs, ish. And I'm just going through the process now of getting them out to the world, getting as many of them out as possible. so, you know, glad you hate me was the kind of the start of that. And I'm just not going to stop. Rolling. I don't know exactly how all of it looks.

I just know that, I'm gonna be consistent and there's a lot of fun content coming. The songs, there's a lot of good songs in the Dropbox and I'm just ready to get, to them. So, little by little, but, uh, definitely not stopping now.

[00:29:14] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, that's awesome. I I love the songwriting process, of course, but um once it gets to like recording time and really like Just kind of fine details that thing. I feel like that's really the playground place I It's it's fun when you've kind of put in the work the craft piece Um, and it's it's feeling really good to get into that that part of it is is really fun.

Yeah

[00:29:36] Casey Conroy: really hard is when you're kind of, you've written so many songs and now you're at the place where you're trying to, Pick the ones that work together, you know, like when you're trying to narrow down that makes my mind one to explode I I think I wrote almost like about a hundred songs within the last, Thinking about you know this project in general And then to kind of get it down to 18 was It's painful, but they, they kind of, uh, they told, they, they all told the same story kind of in the end.

And so they worked, they, they kind of picked themselves, you know,

[00:30:08] Jordan Smith Reynolds: are these 18 meant to be on like a like an album or what's what's the vision?

[00:30:13] Casey Conroy: not necessarily, I feel like as an artist, I'm very, I like to think project based. It just. It really helps me with my own artistic and creative vision. and that, and that's why I kind of said, I don't know exactly the way the rollout is working. I'm kind of going to go with the flow and see, and see how it grows and what's going.

I just know that they're going to come out. In one way or another. So, but that is to be seen. 

That is to 

[00:30:37] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Awesome. Okay. And, uh, where can people find you 

[00:30:40] Casey Conroy: Yeah, you can find me anywhere on any of the social platforms @iamcaseyconroy, which is I am Casey Conroy, which i'm sure you're gonna put in the description so I don't have to spell it.

[00:30:51] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah. No, that's great. For people that jump straight to socials, that's awesome. But yes, it will be in the episode notes if you want to go in and check it out that way. And, this song is out now. So, Glad You Hate Me is

out now. Go take a listen to it, and save it to your playlist and all that good stuff.

Um, but yeah.

[00:31:10] Casey Conroy: please.

[00:31:11] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yes, please do that.

[00:31:13] Casey Conroy: if anyone needs any uh inspo This song is perfect for your like dancing with tears in your eyes type playlists It gives you a little bit of the energy, but you could also definitely cry to it So

[00:31:25] Jordan Smith Reynolds: Yeah, it's very good multi purpose. Yeah,

[00:31:28] Casey Conroy: Yeah, I did it

[00:31:30] Jordan Smith Reynolds: that's awesome. thank you so much for being here, Casey. I'm excited to follow these songs that are coming out. I love this song, so I'm excited to see where the rest of the project goes. So, thank you for being here.

[00:31:41] Casey Conroy: Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you. 

[00:31:45] Jordan Smith Reynolds: I'll See ya